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    This is what I call health care rationing as our system has been and is now:


    • 45 million people, like me, have no health insurance. What happens when a person, who is uninsured, gets cancer? I know what would happen to me. I would either lose our home and all of our assets fighting it, or I would die without care.
    • Millions of people are under-insured, with health care coverage at high premiums and high deductibles, and a catastrophic illness wipes them out financially. Even though they have health insurance.
    • Some health insurance companies consider pregnancy a pre-existing condition.
    • 10 year old Sarah Murnaghan was denied a lung transplant, until her mother brought public attention to her plight.
    • 3 year old Amelia Rivera was denied a kidney transplant, even from her own mother, because she has developmental disabilities, until public pressure caused physicians to reconsider.
    • The exorbitant cost of health care. $6k for one pill to save your life?
    • The redundancy of health care ~ I've spent the majority of my adult life in hospitals with my sons, and I guarantee you tests and procedures are preformed redundantly. In 2011, Jon was hospitalized for 40 days. He had a CT scan of his gut, as well as an x-ray. Not good enough for one GI. He wanted another x-ray, which showed the same thing: Nothing. Always, chest x-rays every single day. Yet, the doctors claim that it takes 3 days for an x-ray to comport with clinical findings. So why not x-ray every 3 days? In 2012, we rushed to the ER, because Jon's blood work (blood taken by his home health nurse) results indicated low hemoglobin. The ER doc ordered another blood panel. Jon's blood work was about 3 hours old. Nothing was going to change in that amount of time!
    • The nonsensicality and ineptitude of health insurance ~ Jon's Medicaid will not pay a podiatrist for a home visit ($75), but they will pay for an ambulance to transport Jon to and from the podiatrist's office, as well as pay the podiatrist (estimated $700+). They won't pay for an alternating pressure mattress ($4k), but they will pay for Wound Care nurses visits for 9 months to treat a 5 inch Stage 4 wound (lots more than $4k), which could be prevented with an alternating mattress.
    • Unregulated Durable Medical Equipment and Pharmaceutical Prices ~ DME's and Pharma can charge any obscene amount they desire.


    Our health care system is a mess right now. Here are the rankings of health care systems throughout the world by the World Health Organization in 2000:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_H...health_systems

    The United States is ranked #38, right above Slovenia.

    Here's an update on that list:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/best-...ld-2012-6?op=1

    France has been ranked #1 for many years. Let's have what they're having!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriella7 View Post
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    Abby, your link to the book Ration Care does not work. I even did a search and came up with nothing but I did find another book "Citizen's Guide to Health Care Reform" by Dr. Robert L. McCan, PhD which one can read online and get a lot of information about the "Affordable Care Act".

    The reference to Hitler's poster is offensive.

    Gabriella
    The link didn't work for me either. I also searched for it and located no sites referencing it.

    I also found the reference to the Hitler poster to be offensive and quite disturbing.

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    Hi,

    Those of us already on medical plans from our work places will hardly notice any difference except that some tests have already become free like mammos, colonoscopies, . . .

    Medicare will be mostly the same.

    Medicaid is going to be greatly expanded in some states.

    That is the short version.

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    The Keiser Foundation's website is a good source of information about health care reform.

    http://kff.org/health-reform/

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    Let me try again http://www.amazon.com/Ration-Powerfu...ds=Ration+CareIts Ration Care by John Aman

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    Rose sorry the poster upset you kind of ruined my day also when I realized I was the one in that chair and the one they were referring to.


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    No one said anything about the German people killing anyone and this (the poster) was inferring that

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    Oh yes, the author is John Aman and the cost is $1.50 which is $1.50 more than the information is worth! You can also buy it online for 1 cent. He has written numerous booklets that are negative to Obama and has his own agenda and smear campaign. Let's just go forward with books and websites that explain the ACA without all the negativity and political scare tactics......namely the Hitler poster that is totally out of place on a support forum and offensive to PWMS!

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    MS is a disease i.e. health related so therefore info on how HEALTH care is going to be offered or NOT [when they stop offering these experiental drugs there will be no need for a forum such as this.

    If the German people were guilty of anything in the 1940's (the poster time was the 30's T-4 program getting rid of thos UNWORTHY OF LIFE)[) it (what they were guilty) of was sticking their heads in the sand and saying it was all nonsense, never happen or attacking the ones that were trying to tell them what was going on.

    Its all a matter of watching it happen now.


    Just like the 1930's NOBODY CARES!!!


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    It saddens me to see this thread deteriorate further, therefore it's been closed. Perhaps in a few days I will reopen it for discussion.
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