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    This death panel stuff is going to have to stop here. I'm not saying you can't discuss the IPAB, I'm saying you can't call it a "death panel" any longer. That particular phrase is too argumentative for this community. I personally haven't been paying attention to any of the health care reform stuf, even though I probably should.

    I will say that according to http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...advisory-board that:

    IPAB is specifically prohibited by law from recommending any policies that ration care, raise taxes, increase premiums or cost-sharing, restrict benefits or modify who is eligible for Medicare.
    Now I'm not naive, I know that there could be some legalese in the bill that may override that...I don't trust much of what any politician says.

    So once again, please do not use the phrase "death panel" (or death panels) when discussing the IPAB.
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    :) Hi everyone. Mike can you remove the referrals to death panels please? We do not need the added stress of worry. I think they are mistaken but I am not going into a debate over it. I love this board for its support and usually it is uplifting.

    I am starting to go through David's file cabinets and I have found many shocks about things I had no idea he was trying to do. David's good points out weigh his bad ones but I am learning that I did not know how he truly felt. All this sorting is depressing.

    I am still on the antibiotics for my cough. Please keep me in your prayers. You are all in my prayers. Jeanie :)

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    Default Political Agenda

    Consider the source.... LifeNews....has it's own political agenda.

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    I do apologize I had intended on editing the post to remove the phrase but forgot. The phrase has been removed except for in my reply. Do not attempt to belittle or make a poster feel bad because of their beliefs or the sources they use to express those beliefs. The preceding statement was not aimed at anyone in particular.
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    Can we just remain neutral? Not to the left nor to the right? That way the discussions are about the topic and not the beliefs of the poster. JMHO

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    I am under the FEHB, have Medicare A&B and Tricare for Life. Having said that, I tend to lean towards forums, sites that pertain to federal employees and annuitants rather than news articles since I am federal retiree. It doesn't look good for us but at least some of us have options to suspend our insurance...NOT giving it up...just suspending. But no one will know for sure until Open Season comes about. I am just grateful that things are going good for now.
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    I am also FEHB as secondary with Medicare A&B primary due to age. I'm not changing either and haven't in years just waiting to see what comes of any changes for us......

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    There are changes coming of that you can be sure[ and remember you knew about them in advance.

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    Did anyone get the little book Ration Care?
    *edited out non working link*

    There was a German poster in 1939 and was used to convince the population that the sick and disabled did not deserve to live
    http://mindinflux.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/nazi1.jpg

    the translaton was this:
    A German poster from 1939
    When Hitler began to kill the sick and disabled before he started on the Jews.

    Translation:

    60,000 Reich marks. What this person suffering from is hereditary defects costs the People’s community during his lifetime. Comrade, that is your money too.
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    Abby, your link to the book Ration Care does not work. I even did a search and came up with nothing but I did find another book "Citizen's Guide to Health Care Reform" by Dr. Robert L. McCan, PhD which one can read online and get a lot of information about the "Affordable Care Act".

    The reference to Hitler's poster is offensive.

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