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    Sorry, Howie, just the women on this result!

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30837942

    Front Neurol. 2019 Feb 19;10:125. doi: 10.3389/fneur.2019.00125. eCollection 2019.

    Higher Non-processed Red Meat Consumption Is Associated With a Reduced Risk of Central Nervous System Demyelination.

    Black LJ1, Bowe GS1, Pereira G1,2, Lucas RM3,4, Dear K5, van der Mei I6, Sherriff JL1; Ausimmune Investigator Group.

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    The evidence associating red meat consumption and risk of multiple sclerosis is inconclusive. We tested associations between red meat consumption and risk of a first clinical diagnosis of central nervous system demyelination (FCD), often presaging a diagnosis of multiple sclerosis.

    We used food frequency questionnaire data from the 2003-2006 Ausimmune Study, an incident, matched, case-control study examining environmental risk factors for FCD. We calculated non-processed and processed red meat density (g/1,000 kcal/day). Conditional logistic regression models (with participants matched on age, sex, and study region) were used to estimate odds ratios (ORs), 95% confidence intervals (95% CI) and p-values for associations between non-processed (n = 689, 250 cases, 439 controls) and processed (n = 683, 248 cases, 435 controls) red meat density and risk of FCD. Models were adjusted for history of infectious mononucleosis, serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D concentrations, smoking, race, education, body mass index and dietary misreporting.

    A one standard deviation increase in non-processed red meat density (22 g/1,000 kcal/day) was associated with a 19% reduced risk of FCD (AOR = 0.81; 95%CI 0.68, 0.97; p = 0.02). When stratified by sex, higher non-processed red meat density (per 22 g/1,000 kcal/day) was associated with a 26% reduced risk of FCD in females (n = 519; AOR = 0.74; 95%CI 0.60, 0.92; p = 0.01).

    There was no statistically significant association between non-processed red meat density and risk of FCD in males (n = 170). We found no statistically significant association between processed red meat density and risk of FCD.

    Further investigation is warranted to understand the important components of a diet that includes non-processed red meat for lower FCD risk.
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    Cool

    But...........
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    A whole contingent of people here don't get any steak--not just Howie. LarryLDN, Tweeker, soul, to name a few. They drop in from time to time.

    Not the place for them to order steak, I guess.
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    I eat it by prescription due to chronic anemia. When I don't eat it or eat less than a couple of meals a week, my anemia worsens.

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    I always wondered how Terry Wahls could go from being a vegetarian to a meat eater again.
    Maybe she is onto something...

    I haven't had red meat in decades, and I'd need to see more and no possible alternative before I could bring myself to even entertain putting this back in my diet or down my throat. I'd be interested how Wahls made the psychological and gastronomical transition.
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    SuzE-Q, do you eat a lot of soy? It's a good alternative protein source. I use to be a big soy eater.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howie View Post
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    SuzE-Q, do you eat a lot of soy? It's a good alternative protein source. I use to be a big soy eater.
    Soy is not generally a good protein alternative for men as it produces progesterone (a female hormone) in those who eat it. For many men this can cause problems such as ED and breast development if too much is ingested. Fortunately, it is often reversible if the consumption is eliminated.

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    Thank goodness for that. I haven't had soy in years! Thanks for the info!
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    Like you, I drink soy milk (haha, although you might be swearing off it after what Cherie just wrote!).

    I have a lot of nuts and beans though, some very occasional nonred meat animal sources, and lots of green smoothies.

    I'm going to get a blood panel done soon to see how I'm making out.
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