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    Question What Is Next For Jonathan?

    ((((((Hugs to All)))))) ~

    I decided to start a new thread for Jonathan to make it easier to keep track of his issues, separate from Jim's journey.

    THE TRACHE

    Jon's nurse spoke to our pulmonologist, Dr. H, about Jon's trache removal/replacement. We haven't had a chance to talk on the phone yet, and she only emailed me one sentence: Dr. H says that Jon needs to go to the ER.

    Of course, this is what we dreaded. Jon weighs about 200 lbs now, thanks to lymphedema fluid build up, and his body is so twisted and contorted. Moving him from his bed to a narrow, hard gurney, then taking the ride to the hospital, which is only 8 minutes, but an eternity for him as the suspension on the ambulances is awful, then waiting in the ER hallway for a doc to assess Jon and send him to a room, then waiting, waiting, waiting ...

    I have to take with us a bag full of: His medications, his formula/spike set/syringes, paper cups, bottled water, trache, colostomy supplies, extra "shirts" (hospital gowns), under pads, wipes ...

    And if you're thinking that the hospital should have all of these things, they don't. It takes 24 hours to order anything they don't carry. Jon's formula is not widely used. Nor are his colostomy supplies. His special under pads, which I order and pay for, because Medi-Cal won't, take days to arrive, and by that time, his bottom looks like hamburger. (That's when he's admitted.)

    This is not my first rodeo. In fact, it's more like my thousandth.

    The purpose of the ER visit will be to determine why Jon's trache isn't easily removable. I suspect he'll have an x-ray, which of course, will expose his thyroid to radiation and exacerbate his hypothyroidism. Maybe a CAT scan, if anything untoward shows up. Or an ultrasound (much less stressful and can be done at bedside).

    We'll be there for hours, and Jim and Jon particularly will be exposed to lots of germs. I may have to insist that Jim stay home just to avoid that environment. That will be extremely difficult for all of us. But we have to protect Jim.

    If surgery is necessary, I would expect that it would have to be scheduled, as this isnít an emergency. Jon is not in distress, and his SATS are excellent. For this, we give abundant thanks.

    At least Jim doesnít have chemo next week.

    BLOOD WORK RESULTS AND SUPPLIES REQUEST

    Itís been a week, and weíve heard nothing. I know our PCP is busy, but this stuff is really crucial for Jon right now, and a week is a ridiculously long time to wait for a response.

    So, I will be emailing our doc, then calling his office on Monday (when everyone else calls Ö) to follow up.

    With everything else thatís been happening in our family, I havenít had a chance to schedule Jonís PT to visit and address his lymphedema. And now, with this issue looming, we may miss another week of opportunity.

    SEIZURE

    At 2 a.m., when I was giving Jon his seizure meds, he had a seizure. Clenched fists, stiff arms, grimacing expression, glassy eyes. It lasted about 6 minutes. I woke Jim, because I didnít know whether Jon would go full throttle and have a tonic clonic. That would put us in ER right away, and his trache would have to be removed for intubation on a ventilator.

    I vividly remember ER in 2012, when Jon had a 3 hour tonic clonic, turned blue in ER, and the respiratory therapist fumbled with removing his trache for intubation. We do not want to go there again.

    Once the seizure concluded, Jon was cheerful and chatty, then he finally fell asleep. Weíve been hovering today.

    We will increase his seizure meds dosage this evening to make sure that he is covered before his 2 a.m. dose, as heís troughing.

    Perhaps it is the full moon wreaking havoc on us now. I have no idea. I just keep clinging to my faith and trust that all will work out as it should. Sometimes that is truly difficult. This is one of those times. I have to dig deep into my reservoir of strength and pull out a rabbit.

    We thank you so much for your prayers, love and support. We are so grateful for your friendship and the blessing you are in our lives.

    Love & Light,



    Rose
    Mom to Jon, 48, (seizure disorder; Gtube; trache; colostomy; osteoporosis; hypothyroid; enlarged prostate; lymphedema, assorted mysteries) and Michael, 32, (intractable seizures; Gtube), who were born with an undiagnosed progressive neuromuscular disease and courageous spirits. Our Angel Michael received his wings in 2003 and now resides in Heaven. Our Angel Jon lives at home with me and Jim, the world's most wonderful dad.

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    Dear Rose,

    I have no words but want to send all of your family my continued prayers and good thoughts. I hope there will be a better resolution for Jon and avoid going to the ER.

    Marcie

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    ((((((Hugs to All)))))) ~

    Marcie ~ Thank you for your prayers and good thoughts.

    Jonís nurse and I finally had a chance to chat today.

    She told me that Dr. H said that a Respiratory Therapist (RT) is usually sent to home health patients to change traches. Since that isnít the case with Jon, he recommended going to ER, where an RT could change the trache. And, I guess, if there is a problem, Jon would be there to get tests.

    We decided that we would try it again at home, and that she would bring another nurse, who knows Jon and actually taught his nurse how to change his trache. We are going to experiment with different positioning, suctioning prior to removal, and attempting to lubricate the tube around the stoma. Jim suggested that we try holding/pulling the skin/granuloma around his trache to facilitate removal. One of us can do that, while the nurse pulls out the trache.

    Tomorrow, Iím going to call Jonís new Medi-Cal case manager to ask her whether she can identify a home health agency, which offers RTs. If so, then Iíll find out the protocol to schedule an RT visit at home. That will require an order from Jonís PCP, or even perhaps Dr. H would do it for Jon. Then Medi-Cal has to authorize the order. Since this will take time, weíre going to try doing it with Jonís nurses, while we wait.

    So, ER will be our last resort.

    Jim and I discussed him staying home, if Jon has to go to ER. He agreed that it would be best for him, although he will want to be there with us. He said he would use that time to change the mattress cover on Jonís mattress, which is shredding. Jon has to be out of bed for us to do this, or at least elevated on his lift sling, which we did once with Johnís assistance.

    We deeply appreciate all prayers and positive trache removal energy sent our way!

    Love & Light,



    Rose
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    Rose, it sounds as if you've come up with an ingenious solution by having Jim change Jon's mattress cover if/when you and Jon need to go to the ER. It's a shame that the seizure meds aren't doing a better job.

    I'm sure there is one doctor in charge of coordinating all aspects of Jon's care. I hope that that person is keeping on top of the situation and is aware of the many issues involved.

    It must be very difficult to get it all right when there are so many things threatening to go wrong.

    I don't expect that anything I say will be of much practical use to you, but just wanted you to know that your friends are here and in your corner, hoping for the best.
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    ((((((agate)))))) ~

    Thank you so much for your caring and support. We are so very grateful for our friends, and the prayers and positive energy we receive from all of you sustains us and gives us strength to carry on.

    Jon's seizures are primarily controlled, but every once in awhile, he has a breakthrough seizure. We just increase his dosage in the evening to cover him until his early morning dose. That generally works, unless he has an underlying issue, like an infection, fluid overload, constipation, or sleep deprivation. His seizures are almost entirely sleep-related.

    Jon's PCP for the last 17 years is in charge. The poor man has to fill out hundreds of forms for Jon's various programs, and for Jon's formula, supplies, meds, everything. He just started his practice 17 years ago, so young, so innocent, so idealistic. He's a very sweet, compassionate, hard working doctor. That's why he has too many patients, and we often have to wait for the things Jon needs. It's been over a week since Jon's blood draw, and we still don't have the results.

    Tomorrow, I'll be calling his office to follow up on my faxes and emails to make sure that the ball is rolling.

    "It must be very difficult to get it all right when there are so many things threatening to go wrong."

    It is.

    Well said! You just summed up my entire life!

    Thank you!

    Love & Light,



    Rose
    Mom to Jon, 48, (seizure disorder; Gtube; trache; colostomy; osteoporosis; hypothyroid; enlarged prostate; lymphedema, assorted mysteries) and Michael, 32, (intractable seizures; Gtube), who were born with an undiagnosed progressive neuromuscular disease and courageous spirits. Our Angel Michael received his wings in 2003 and now resides in Heaven. Our Angel Jon lives at home with me and Jim, the world's most wonderful dad.

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    Sweet Rose, I have signed back up on CN. It has been so many years since I have been here. I lost all my login information. I will try and check out child loss in the next few days, and share some of my stuff. Saying HI, to all my old neuro buddies. This is Tracy Sheppard, Megan's mom. Love and prayers to everyone.

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    Rose, I'm so sorry I haven't kept up with posts on the board in the past several days. I've been upset about a few things and just haven't felt up to much communicating.

    I'm so sorry Jon has been suffering so much. I find it hard to tolerate even a short spell of hiccups. Days of them must be very exhausting.

    I don't know if he can sip water at all? My surefire cure for hiccups, and it has never failed me since I first heard about it when I was about 10 years old, is to put a handkerchief over a glass of water and drink the water through the handkerchief as it is stretched over the top of the glass.

    I've always used a tumbler but it might work as well with a cup or mug. I don't know why it works. I think it somehow alters your breathing enough to stop the hiccups.

    But Jon's situation may not be as simple as my common hiccups. I hope that the Baclofen will help.
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    Hi Rose,
    I'm sorry Jon had a seizure! I am praying all is resolved soon. I had computer issues which is why I have not been here lately. Sorry about that too.
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    Praying all of Jon's issues will be resolved quickly. You have enough stress on your plate now. Please be sure to take time for yourself! I know how hard that can be, but oh so necessary.

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    Hi Rose,

    Continued prayers going up for all of you.

    Have they figured out what to do about Jonathan’s trache?

    Welcome back Tracy! Happy to see you here!

    Marcie

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