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    Good article Agate. I am wondering the same thing. However, even if Congress could get Pompeo to come in and talk about what went on in the meeting as the article was saying, my question is how does he really know? He wasn't in the meeting and DT lies to everyone. The one thing we do know is that they talked of exchanging people to question them. For one Putin wants our former Russian Ambassador, Michael McFaul. I have seen him a lot on TV. He is not a fan of Putin's, but loves the country. Right now he is afraid to travel anywhere overseas because Interpol might pick him up for Putin. He always seems like such a nice man. He seems to say what he thinks, but usually with a mild demeanor.

    Sarah Sanders said in the press conference yesterday that it had not been decided. Eric Swallwell tweeted that if it happened that he and about 110 million other Americans would see that DT was no longer President. I can not conceive of an American President agreeing to turn over a former diplomat to a KGB person or any foreign adversary. McFaul was Ambassador under Obama. I am seething at the thought of DT even discussing it.
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    I still can't believe that there was no record of this conversation. Actually, I can believe it when I remember all of the other times when Trump has shown what he can get away with.
    IMO, it is chilling to have someone so incompetent, and not even attempting to address his ignorance with in depth and lengthy information sessions beforehand and putting other very savvy and experienced individuals in the room with him to offset his own lack of
    knowledge, on the world stage in geopolitical talks.

    The list of things that can go bad, and badly on a catastrophic level, is astronomical.

    He is a petulant, ignorant child playing in the big leagues with some very scary adversaries that he doesn't even have a basic level of understanding of just how deep he's in.

    I've said it before, but it bears repeating: he's in way over his head. It's like letting your child cut you open and take out your appendix because he was pretty good at the game, Operation.

    I really wish, for the safety of all, that Congress would intervene and restrict his authority.

    This could go terribly, terribly wrong, and this was just a preview.

    At least Melania had the smarts not to catch the ball that her husband threw at her, but let Pompeo pick it up first. DT says he'll give it to his son?? He doesn't even realize he's not there on behalf of his family, nor was it a gift to him personally. He's there as a representative of the people of the USA.

    He couldn't even look past himself personally when accepting the soccer ball, or even consider it ill advised to hand it off to his wife to touch before it was examined by professionals. Why didn't someone slip the interpreter a recording device? Why was it ever allowed to go ahead without a recording or witness?

    And his corrections in trying to get around his grievous errors in comments made (would/wouldn't, no) are just the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Me thinks Steven Miller is the fool behind those asinine attempts to correct the record as he is too often the one behind DT's written remarks that fall flat and create uproar.

    This is what happens when you get someone unqualified advising you, and you don't care to inform yourself fully and properly outside of your echo chamber.

    The adults are being kept at bay while the children run wildly and in control of their own daycare.
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    And now he has invited Putin for a visit to the White House in the Autumn!

    Please stop this train I’m on!
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    Do you ever feel like we're in the movie "Big", and there's a kid in the White House?

    I feel like we're living out that movie. Wasn't there one about an actual kid in the White House? Wonder if he did a better job in the movie than this one?
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    It's like letting your child cut you open and take out your appendix because he was pretty good at the game, Operation.
    That pretty much says it.

    He seemed to be doing OK at a version of Monopoly--creating hotels all over the place--and that indicates a certain business acumen, right? There were some bankruptcies, I understand, but still he must have seemed to some to be every inch the picture of success in business, and since government is really just another business (I recall he said that), of course he'd be a natural for the job of US President.

    How do we know that he wasn't making plans with Putin for some Trump hotels dotted over the Russian landscape? Maybe they sat there with a map and put little pins on it.

    Should we be glad that they weren't planning on dropping bombs somewhere?

    Do we know for sure that they weren't doing that?
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    ((((((Hugs to All)))))) ~

    Agree with all of you! He is a child, which explains the Brits' DT baby balloon.

    He's also a blustery buffoon.

    He spewed this garbage today: "Obama was a patsy for Russia." And, if things don't go well with Putin, "I'll be the worst enemy he's ever had."

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/19/trum...hip-fails.html

    How reassuring! If he becomes Putin's worst enemy (which won't happen), that puts the U.S. in grave danger.

    Vlad has him right where he wants him, which is why the Russians interfered in our 2016 election. Vlad owns DT now.

    Meanwhile, the GOP enablers are now accepting DT's "misspeaking" BS. "We all make mistakes." "He corrected it. That's good enough for me."

    What the h ... ?????

    Why aren't people marching? Why aren't Congressional Democrats screaming for his impeachment? Why is everyone rolling over and taking this?

    Sure, MSNBC is all over this, as are all of the late night talk show hosts. But so what? They don't have any power? The ones in power are cowards, weak, and worthless.

    Why aren't our former Presidents speaking up? Carter, Clinton, GW, Obama? Where's Hillary? Bernie? Jill Stein and that other yokel, who ran 3rd party? Why aren't they all speaking out and stirring people to act to get DT out of office?

    How bad must it get before they do anything?

    The timing of Putin's White House pajama party is "Fall." Hmmm... what happens then? Oh, that's right. Mid term elections.

    Right now, Lady Liberty is weeping. After all, he has no respect for women. He grabbed her by the promise of freedom. And he tossed her aside and lies about it. That's his style.

    I've never experienced a coup, but I can imagine this is what it feels like to helpless citizens in a corrupt country.

    He drained the swamp, and flushed us right down through the sewer system. We're on our way to the sludge plant.



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    Quote Originally Posted by agate View Post
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    That pretty much says it.

    He seemed to be doing OK at a version of Monopoly--creating hotels all over the place--and that indicates a certain business acumen, right? There were some bankruptcies, I understand, but still he must have seemed to some to be every inch the picture of success in business, and since government is really just another business (I recall he said that), of course he'd be a natural for the job of US President.

    How do we know that he wasn't making plans with Putin for some Trump hotels dotted over the Russian landscape? Maybe they sat there with a map and put little pins on it.

    Should we be glad that they weren't planning on dropping bombs somewhere?

    Do we know for sure that they weren't doing that?
    He actually wasn't / isn't all that good in business: 4-6 bankruptcies, depending on which source you believe. Failed casinos, failed steak business, failing golf courses, failed hotels. "Rented" out his name to put on buildings, many of which have now removed it at the demand of tenants. Lawsuits from every direction for everything from racial discrimination to shoddy workmanship to labor relations, defamation.....you name it: someone is suing him, or he's trying to use somebody.

    He's a defiant child: he's told he can't do something, he'll do it anyway, just in spite. He thinks as president he has absolute power. If Congress actually *did their job* he'd learn he doesnt. (Their job is to put their brakes on just this sort of power grabbing.) He thinks he knows everything he needs to know about everything. He doesn't he thinks he is the smartest .man in the room. He isnt.

    Before he was elected president and right up to before he took office, he was working on a deal to put luxury hotels in Russia. There's no way to tell if those are still in the works, as he won't disclose any of his finances. Turning everything over to his children is a joke: a man of his temperament knows every detail about what is happening with that. It would at all surprise me if that wasn't part of the two hour discussion

    So a huge chunk of the nation is alarmed over that meeting. He fumbled his way through several explanations.....And then invites Putin to the White House... Let that sink in. Putin is coming to our house, the nation's house. A brutal thug, a dictator, murderer, executioner, invader of nations, coming to the White house.

    And Congress does nothing.

    In the meantime, children are being separated from their families, the environment is endangered, drug and food safety laws are being reversed, ultra-conservative and sometimes totally unqualified people are being appointed in positions ranging from judges to department heads, and Congress sits there and does nothing.

    Vote blue in November. Vote as if your life, the lives of your children and grandchildren depend on your voting blue. Make America great again: vote democrats in so they can throw trump out. If Congress won't do it's job, we have to get folks in there that will.
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    Not the movie Big. The movie Manchurian Candidate. Or Benedict Arnold.

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