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    Lil 'e - I wish you the best. MMJ does help - if you live in a state where it is legal in any form medical or recreational - I will reserve my comments on the rec. stuff to myself) but be aware that where I live, To get the card, you need a physician to certify you $150. and the another $150 ($75 if on food stamps) snap - and prices are not cheap at the dispensary - but when you find the right strain - there are many and the folks at the dispensary are usually knowledgeable, - tell them what you are achieve and they will help you pick one - you can usually buy a -pre-rolled cigerette so you can sort of try before you buy 10-12$ is the norm. I have not experianced obama care - I have enough troubles with Medicaid and the VA. so i would hang in there. Note - if you go MMJ - You get you records, Medical that that is and do NOt sign any consent forms for the doc. to share info or request info. if the doc has issues with this, find another doc as a doc who does this kind of certification will be known and you chances of getting real pain meds will be zero. In closing, if it gets too bad, you have options. It depends on what you can deal with - a good example is me and my partner of 25 years are NOT married as it would really screw us up. if you ever want other options, let me know, as I am an ordained minister, I can give you some that keeps your relationship intact.
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    I've been watching videos on you tube about withdrawal and MMJ. So much knowledge out there. I know how you feel, HC, I was with my doc over 10 years and am having a hard time finding one who will help me because of how high my meds still are and how many others I take. MMJ could take the place of three or four of them.
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    lil I was able to get rid of three meds, well four now that my PM doc ditched me. A lady told me yesterday that her husband had an especially bad patch of psoriasis they'd tried everything on and decided to try a MMJ tincture that has caused it to finally start getting smaller and he is far more comfortable. I've been told that there is a strain out there that can be used to treat almost anything. I take so many other meds that I wonder if my liver or kidneys might be the death of me lol.

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    I'm hoping for the same thing after I finish getting off dilaudid. My daughter uses a tincture she makes but I think eatables will be better for me. What is mostly used for pain is an indica strain with low THC and higher CBD. I'm also going to try it on one of my dogs nose cancer.
    If no pain, no gain is true, where is everything I should have gained?
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    4-12-09 Trip to Laser Spine in Florida. Nerve pain 90% gone.
    Off opiate, using Marijuana tincture, working well.

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    Good for you, Houghchrist
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    Lil E---I'm so very sorry to hear this. Sorry to hear that Obamacare has actually made things worse for chronic pain patients---how terribly disappointing.

    In my opinion, you should be allowed to go to whichever doctor you choose. If your doctor isn't contracted with your insurance and you are therefore forced to pay him in cash, that certainly isn't YOUR fault. I had thought that we all had the choice to see private doctors and pay cash if we had to. Is the government interfering with this right? We should be able to see whichever doctor we choose.

    I'm also in Calif. My PM recently recommended that I try medical MJ. In my experience, it didn't work. It actually intensified my pain, in a strange sort of way. But if MJ works for others, I'm all for it. I really hope MJ works for you.

    My PM said that the government is cracking down so heavily on opiates (and maybe pain docs too?) that he fears that opiates may not be available to prescribe in the near future. This scares the H--- out of me, because my pain is extremely severe and opiates are the ONLY thing that enables me to function at all in this level of pain.

    My PM recommended I try medical MJ in case the feds take away opiates. I tried the medical MJ and was so disappointed in the results. As I said, it actually made my chronic pain worse. (Again, if MJ works for others, I'm all for it. Just pointing out that many CP sufferers NEED opiates just to function, and MJ doesn't work for everyone).

    I'm so sorry that you lost your pain doc due to Obamacare. What a nightmare! It almost seems to me like your Constitutional Rights were violated, but I'm not a legal expert. When will the US government learn that SOME chronic pain patients NEED opiates in order to function and lead a normal life? How can they deny us the pain medication that we so desperately need?

    If you want to see a doctor of your choice that is YOUR business and no one else's. How dare the government deny you access to your own doctor! It really makes me angry that CP patients are being treated so horribly. I had thought that California was a fairly 'liberal' state in terms of pain management laws, but my own PM told me not to count on that. Scary! If I couldn't get my pain meds, my own pain is so severe that I think I'd be forced into suicide. What a horrible thought. I hope and pray that the government never actually DOES take our pain meds away.

    Good luck to you.

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    Lil E---So sorry to hear about this. Even before Obamacare went into effect, my PM doctor was not contracted with any insurance plans. Apparently insurance payments to doctors are very low, so I've noticed that more and more doctors are refusing to be preferred providers on any insurance plan. Not just pain docs, but most specialists and even many primary care doctors. The reimbursements are too low, apparently.

    What I truly cannot understand is that the government is saying that you do not have the right to pay cash to any doctor whom you choose? Is this a new government policy that Obamacare is imposing? If so, it sounds like they are singling out pain management doctors, which seems unconstitutional and discriminatory to those of us who are in chronic pain.

    For example, if you wanted to see some other sort of specialist who did not take your insurance and you paid out-of-pocket, would the government step in then? Not likely.

    If I were in your shoes, I would write letters to both Senators, my Congressperson, Obama, etc. This is blatant discrimination against a chronic pain patient. I don't know how the government can get away with telling you which doctors you can and cannot see, especially if YOU are paying for the appointments yourself! How is that the business of the government? I've never heard of anything so intrusive. I'd be very, very upset.

    I hope that the MMJ works for you. It didn't work in my case. Best of luck to you.

    Eva

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    Mark, I definitely agree with you that Obamacare has not lived up to its claims.

    Obamacare has NOT made health insurance more affordable. My premiums are ridiculously expensive with or without Obamacare. I also do NOT for a minute believe that insurance companies are no longer looking into patients' pre-existing conditions. I have a couple of pre-existing conditions, along with my chronic pain condition. I strongly suspect that I'm being 'penalized' for having pre-existing medical conditions, because my premiums are so much higher than those of other people who are my age who do not have pre-existing conditions.

    Just wanted to let you know that I agree with you, and that Obamacare did nothing to reduce health care premiums, as the politicians promised it would. Unfortunately, it seems that there is no such thing as 'affordable health care' in the US. It makes things really tough financially for those of us with chronic medical conditions.

    Eva

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    houghchrist - we go way back and I am sorry to hear of your situation. MMJ can and is a lifesaver - I hope you are in a state where it is at least medically legal - I do - I can't say more as ,well you know how it is with Govt. Snoops. I wish you well and I hope it gets better for you. I hope you don't suffer from Methadone withdrawel as it is a ^$$%$. Good luck and happy holidays
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    that sounds terrible,so typical of this disgusting era we live in -good luck
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